Trump impeachment: Three law experts tell committee he should be removed

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There is no doubt that President Donald Trump’s actions require him to be removed from office, three scholars of US constitutional law have testified.

The three experts described Mr Trump’s efforts to solicit help from a foreign nation as a crime and accused him of obstructing justice.

Four experts, three picked by Democrats and one by the Republicans, have been testifying in Congress.

The fourth said Mr Trump’s actions were wrong, but not impeachable.

As the investigation entered a new phase, the experts testified to the House Judiciary Committee which began hearings aimed at drawing up articles of impeachment.

Its hearings come hot on the heels of the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation, which concluded on Tuesday with a 300-page report accusing Mr Trump of putting his own personal political interests “above the national interests of the United States” by soliciting foreign interference in the 2020 US elections.

The impeachment process began in September after an anonymous whistleblower complained to Congress about a July phone call by Mr Trump to the president of Ukraine, in which Mr Trump appeared to tie US military assistance to Ukraine launching investigations which would help him politically.

The White House has rejected the allegations made by Democrats, who hold the majority in the House of Representatives.

Speaking from the UK, where he has been attending a Nato summit, Mr Trump questioned the patriotism of Democrats. “You almost question whether or not they love our country and that’s a very serious thing: Do they love our country?” he said on Wednesday.

Among formal impeachment charges expected to be considered by the judiciary committee are abuse of power, obstruction of justice and contempt of Congress.

Democrats are keen to hold a vote on impeachment in the House of Representatives before the end of the year, with the prospect of a trial in the Senate perhaps as early as January 2020.

What did the experts say?

The four law professors questioned by the committee were:

  • Stanford University’s Prof Pamela Karlan, Harvard University’s Prof Noah Feldman and from the University of North Carolina, Prof Michael Gerhardt, chosen by the Democrats.
  • George Washington University’s Jonathan Turley, picked by Republicans.

The legal experts interpreted the impeachment clause of the constitution, which allows for presidents to be removed from office due to “high crimes and misdemeanours”.

Prof Feldman testified that the “evidence clearly constitutes” an impeachable offence because Mr Trump’s interactions with Ukraine show him “corruptly using the powers of the presidency for personal political gain”.

As she began her testimony, Prof Karlan scolded the committee’s top Republican, saying she was “insulted” by his comment implying that she had not reviewed the intelligence committee’s public testimony of 12 witnesses.

Media captionProfessor Pamela Karlan rebukes Republican congressman

“I would like to say to you, sir, that I read transcripts of every one” of the witnesses, she said. “But everything I read on those occasions tells me that when President Trump invited, indeed demanded, foreign involvement in our upcoming election, he struck at the very heart what makes this a republic to which we pledge allegiance.”

Mr Trump has attacked the “safeguards against establishing a monarchy in this country”, Prof Gerhardt stated.

“The president’s serious misconduct, including bribery, soliciting a personal favour from a foreign leader in exchange for his exercise of power, and obstructing justice and Congress are worse than the misconduct of any prior president, including what previous presidents who faced impeachment have done or been accused of doing,” he said in his opening remarks.

“If what we’re talking about here is not impeachable, nothing is impeachable,” he added.

Prof Turley, who was chosen as a witness by Republicans, said he disagreed with Mr Trump’s conduct but “this is not how an American president should be impeached”. He also warned that Democrats are setting a dangerous precedent.

“I get it. You are mad. The President is mad. My Democratic friends are mad. My Republican friends are mad….” he said. “We are all mad and where has it taken us? Will a slipshod impeachment make us less mad or will it only give an invitation for the madness to follow in every future administration?”

The intelligence committee's report

What is Trump accused of?

Democrats say Mr Trump dangled two bargaining chips to Ukraine – $400m (£309m) of military aid that had already been allocated by Congress, and a White House meeting for Mr Zelensky – to obtain the investigations. They think this political pressure on a vulnerable US ally amounts to an abuse of power.

The first investigation Mr Trump wanted from Ukraine was into former Vice-President Joe Biden, his main Democratic challenger, and his son Hunter. Hunter joined the board of a Ukrainian energy company when Joe Biden was US vice-president.

The second Trump demand was that Ukraine try to corroborate a conspiracy theory that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the last US presidential election. This theory has been widely debunked, and US intelligence agencies are unanimous in saying Moscow was behind the hacking of Democratic Party emails in 2016.

Media captionUkrainian foreign minister Prystaiko dismissed allegations the country interfered in US election

How does impeachment work?

Impeachment is the first part – the charges – of a two-stage political process by which Congress can remove a president from office.

If, following the hearings, the House of Representatives votes to pass articles of impeachment, the Senate is forced to hold a trial.

A Senate vote requires a two-thirds majority to convict and remove the president – unlikely in this case, given that Mr Trump’s party controls the chamber.

Only two US presidents in history – Bill Clinton and Andrew Johnson – have been impeached, but neither was convicted.


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